
Originally Posted by
Domo
I am going to approach this issue in a general and open manner. I live in S E Asia, where, besides Islam, Christianity and Judaism - there are also Hinduism, Taoism, Buddhism etc. For your information people from these belief groups also interact with supernatural beings to attain healing or peaceful coexistence. And I do know that they have their own ways of doing it and often times they are also successful.
So I believe the communicative skills with the unseen are not confined to successes of Muslims only; anyone can do it - as long as they know the basics. Please recall: In the Ayatul Kursi, it is mentioned,
"Who is there can intercede (help) in His presence except as He permitteth?"
Hence, if Allah permits (i.e., if someone does some doings to help or hurt people and he does it in accordance to Allah laws or Qada' & Qadar') the doings may result in positive outcomes. But this 'grant' does not mean that Allah gives his blessing in totality. The blessings for the Akhirat especially is dependent on Allah's Goodwill (رضا) and the intention (نية) of the doer. The ability for people (the non muslim especially) to do good or bad within the knowledge and permission of Allah reflects Allah's Rahman and 'Adl (in this worldly life). Allahuwaklam.
With regards to the ability for non-muslims to communicate with the world of the Jinn is not something that anyone denies. Allaah said in the Qur'aan,
وَاتَّبَعُوا مَا تَتْلُو الشَّيَاطِينُ عَلَىٰ مُلْكِ سُلَيْمَانَ ۖ وَمَا كَفَرَ سُلَيْمَانُ وَلَٰكِنَّ الشَّيَاطِينَ كَفَرُوا يُعَلِّمُونَ النَّاسَ السِّحْرَ وَمَا أُنزِلَ عَلَى الْمَلَكَيْنِ بِبَابِلَ هَارُوتَ وَمَارُوتَ ۚ وَمَا يُعَلِّمَانِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ حَتَّىٰ يَقُولَا إِنَّمَا نَحْنُ فِتْنَةٌ فَلَا تَكْفُرْ ۖ فَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مِنْهُمَا مَا يُفَرِّقُونَ بِهِ بَيْنَ الْمَرْءِ وَزَوْجِهِ ۚ وَمَا هُم بِضَارِّينَ بِهِ مِنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۚ وَيَتَعَلَّمُونَ مَا يَضُرُّهُمْ وَلَا يَنفَعُهُمْ ۚ وَلَقَدْ عَلِمُوا لَمَنِ اشْتَرَاهُ مَا لَهُ فِي الْآخِرَةِ مِنْ خَلَاقٍ ۚ وَلَبِئْسَ مَا شَرَوْا بِهِ أَنفُسَهُمْ ۚ لَوْ كَانُوا يَعْلَمُونَ
Which means:
And they followed [instead] what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic]." And [yet] they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah . And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew.
So it is not a problem to accept that they can 'communicate'. However, I think that issue is whether this communication is 'beneficial' or 'harmful'. Some may see that a person being sick then goes to the magician to receive a cure, and then leaves feeling cured (and maybe is) that this is benefit. However this is from the biggest harm, as the curing of the physical body while destroying the spiritual soul with Shirk and Kufr cannot be overlooked. Much like Allaah said about Alcohol and Gambling:
"يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ ۖ قُلْ فِيهِمَا إِثْمٌ كَبِيرٌ وَمَنَافِعُ لِلنَّاسِ وَإِثْمُهُمَا أَكْبَرُ مِن نَّفْعِهِمَا ۗ "
Which means
"They ask you about wine and gambling. Say, "In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit.""
As for exorcism, then agreed, muslims are not the only ones who claim to be able to 'cure' possession, however we are the only ones who genuinely cure someone who is possessed, as with other people, then it is only a means of deception on behalf of the Jinn. Much like the Jinn who possessed a brother who studied in Madeenah Uni. When other students were reading over him, he tried to say that the Pope had sent him, and that he has an army who are coming for the student of the Jaami'ah, and that Jewdaism is the true religion, and his rant went on. All lies to try to get us to talk and not recite, to distract the reciter of the Qur'aan. He even made mockery at one of the reciters saying how his recitation was weak and rubbish. But we ignored him, and eventually the truth came out, and what the recitation was doing to him came out. He screamed and shouted, and begged the reciter to stop.
Like I said before, others may claim to cure possession, but for them it only 'seems' to work in order to further them in their mis-guidance.
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